Caesars Palace Track Beta RELEASE!!!!

[samsepi0l]

I say we do Detroit last.

The way I see it, we need the following tracks (with objects & graphics) I know Stig did quite a few of these, and given his current "track record" (pun)- his geometry is VERY accurate. STIG I still have your "source" data for the tracks you sent me.

Rio (work in progress)
Tamiami (probably the next easiest)
Denver 90 91 (not as busy as detroit, but still a city circuit)
Detroit 89 90 91 (this will be the ultimate accomplishment)

Some others that would be nice to do:
Sanair 85
Chicago "cicero" oval (they drove there in 99 and 2000 I think? - the 'paperclip' oval) not to be confused with the track in Joliet which I've been at before

I would also like to revamp Long Beach 1992-1997 (because the track isn't very accurate from Papyrus)
and Belle Isle (92-97 original configuration)

[checkpoint10]

Agree with this prioritization. Definitely makes sense to take small steps towards this big goal. I've already seen that Rio is much easier now that I have learned so much from Caesars.

I would also add to the list Long Beach 1987-91 even though I think it's a worse layout. Not sure if it exists already for ICR2. https://www.racingcircuits.info/north-am...beach.html

[Pavel 69]

I think track has too high walls. Usually high walls are at ovals. And street courses have walls made of concrete blocks that are not highere than the indycar.

[thestig88]

Here's Long Beach 87-91. I've created over 64 tracks, so if you cant find any you might want, ask me and I'll see if I've made it in the past.

[JR82]

Fantastic, from memory Denver (90's) has pit lane issue where there is a pileup in the pits, Houston (late 90's) crashes, Detroit '99 has issue where the cars that pit under yellow overtake the pacecar & lap everyone else. can't think of any others at this stage that are either not there or have issues. there could be more but i have forgotten them.

[Wolf_pd]

Fantastic, from memory Denver (90's) has pit lane issue where there is a pileup in the pits, Houston (late 90's) crashes, Detroit '99 has issue where the cars that pit under yellow overtake the pacecar & lap everyone else. can't think of any others at this stage that are either not there or have issues. there could be more but i have forgotten them.

I thought Pavel did a remake of 90s Houston?

[JR82]

Fantastic, from memory Denver (90's) has pit lane issue where there is a pileup in the pits, Houston (late 90's) crashes, Detroit '99 has issue where the cars that pit under yellow overtake the pacecar & lap everyone else. can't think of any others at this stage that are either not there or have issues. there could be more but i have forgotten them.

I thought Pavel did a remake of 90s Houston?

He may have, i am not sure who made the one i have but it crashes.

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Btw, we had some threads about which tracks were made for each seasons. We might want to revisit those and edit them to current standings. I can do the editing as I can edit every post if needed.

Edit: Maybe we can do a remake of those threads. A sort of to do list

pinned thread with all Tracks listed/linked in the OP?
This would be awesome as it seems the community is now right onto this which is great. also a pinned thread for the best car sets even tho they are in the archive some i have found via other links & they were mentioned on here.

[checkpoint10]

I think track has too high walls. Usually high walls are at ovals. And street courses have walls made of concrete blocks that are not highere than the indycar.

How do we change the walls to be lower? Can this be done with trk23d or would you have to edit the 3d file manually?

[Pavel 69]

It can be done with pitwall.txt
Inside this file you can set wall height for every boundary. By defaul trk23d set all walls to 24000. Original Papy tracks have heights for concrete walls 21000 and for armco 18000 (or 17000).

BOUNDARY <boundary number>: <start dlong> <end dlong> HEIGHT <height>

Here example of pitwall.txt for my Portland 95 track

BOUNDARY 0: 0 850310 HEIGHT 12000
BOUNDARY 0: 850310 6086877 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 0: 6086877 23820896 HEIGHT 17000
BOUNDARY 0: 23820896 45819301 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 0: 45819301 52617417 HEIGHT 17000
BOUNDARY 0: 52617417 55623449 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 0: 55623449 61731717 HEIGHT 12000

BOUNDARY 1: 0 1162928 HEIGHT 17000
BOUNDARY 2: 0 1162928 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 3: 0 1162928 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 1: 55400977 61731717 HEIGHT 17000
BOUNDARY 2: 55400977 61731717 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 3: 55400977 61731717 HEIGHT 18000

BOUNDARY 1: 1162928 6086877 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 1: 6086877 9431426 HEIGHT 8000
BOUNDARY 1: 9431426 21437555 HEIGHT 18000
BOUNDARY 1: 21437555 48718231 HEIGHT 17000
BOUNDARY 1: 48718231 55400977 HEIGHT 18000

[Wolf_pd]

Btw, we had some threads about which tracks were made for each seasons. We might want to revisit those and edit them to current standings. I can do the editing as I can edit every post if needed.

Edit: Maybe we can do a remake of those threads. A sort of to do list

This would be awesome as it seems the community is now right onto this which is great.

Working on it. Gathering info at the moment.